The Open Scroll - Is This the Sign for the Church?

Is This the Sign for the Church?

By Bob Schlenker  (Prints about 10 pages) 4/24/04




AP News As I have written, the sign for the church is the revealing of the lawless one, a critical event that begins a series of very important events. Signs are given by the Lord to instruct the wise, who are then able to participate in the Lord's plan as appointed for them. In recent years, the former President of the US Bill Clinton has become the outstanding candidate for this role. J.R. Church's presentation called Tickling the Tail of the Dragon, exposes Bill as a latter day Nero. (The audio version may be heard online: Part 1 / Part 2) Bill has openly confessed that he is the repairer of the breach, quoting from Isaiah 58:12. Many observant people have come to believe that he is the one, and for very well documented and convincing reasons. But even though their examination of the evidence and personal spiritual discernment has led them to conclude what I believe to be true, that Bill is the lawless one, the identity of the one to fulfill that role can not be fully and rightly known until he has met the most important scriptural requirement. He has to be revealed according to the scriptural declaration of how and when he will be known. Signs are given at appointed times, not randomly or in a random sequence. Their observation at the proper times imparts wisdom. It is no sign to merely have been able to figure out the lawess one's identity, but rather it is the revealing event that is the sign. For some years now, my studies and observations have led me to expect to see the revelation of the lawless one on Nisan 13, 5761, or 2001. This article is my presentation of Bill's activities at the time, offering the news reports available to me at the time as well as some commentary about them.

It may be that we have now seen the identity of the lawless one revealed in a subtle but so very important sign! I was not present with Bill to see exactly what went on, and I don't feel I've yet learned all the relevant news, but what little I have observed makes me think he was revealed as the lawless one. The news articles show what I believe to be the right man at the right time with people around him acting like I would expect them to act if he were the lawless one. The news reporters used language that compares his arrival in India to Jesus' second coming as well. I have heard a report I'm trying to document about an article in AsiaWeek magazine that said Bill had been dedicated to the Hindu gods in a ceremony during his trip. Then, after leaving India, Bill and his wife enjoyed a "secret Easter getaway" where their passion for each other as lovers was expressed in an incredible parallel to what I believe was the relationship between the true Bridegroom and His Bride at that time. I cannot accept for one moment that has all been merely coincidence. What just happened in India may be the sign or it may be the prelude or a foreshadowing.

As you should know, the sign is given, at least in part, as a signal to the Bride that she would soon be taken to be with the Groom. The Bride Theft resurrection I anticipated on Nisan 21 may yet be forthcoming in May on the last day of another Pesach, delayed according to legitimate reasons according to biblical precident. That is my hope and present expectation. We are going to be entering into a second watch window in May. Stay awake and watch with me, friend - and pray you will be found worthy to be the Lord Y'shua's Bride.

I'm going to start out with a couple items of interest just to introduce Bill and refresh your memory.



The following are excerpts from the February 2001 Focus On The Family letter: Family News from Dr. James Dobson

There can be no doubt that Bill Clinton is a lifelong philanderer and womanizer who consumes and then discards his playthings. Nevertheless, this is the man who inexplicably garnered a majority of womenís votes in two elections,25 and who consistently charmed and mesmerized evangelical pastors at White House gatherings.26

The Scripture tells us that our sins will eventually come to light (Luke 12:2-3). So it has been for the president. He has a way of contradicting himself at the point of previous lies, leaving him exposed to the truth. For example, he was a recent guest at Willow Creek Church before an audience of 4,500 religious leaders, with 6,300 more watching via a closed-circuit television hookup in the United States and Canada.27 Clinton was interviewed informally on that occasion by the Rev. Bill Hybels who, after promising a no-holds-barred interview, tossed softballs that permitted the president to sound mildly contrite over the Lewinsky matter. It was just four days before the Democratic National Convention, when he needed "cover" to shield him from those who might bring up the Lewinsky affair. Hybels did not ask the president, nor did the president volunteer, to repent for his infidelity with the other women or to express regret for his shameful support for partial-birth abortion. His confession, if that is what it was, dealt only with the instance when he was caught red-handed. Nevertheless, Iím told that many of the pastors in the viewing audience that day nodded in approval as Bill Clinton tearfully "came clean."

Unfortunately, that moment of candor was apparently forgotten a few months later when the president granted an interview with Esquire. He was pictured on the cover of that issue in a most unpresidential pose, spread eagle and sporting an arrogant grin.

The comparison between the two interviews is striking. Clinton told Hybels that he needed to acknowledge and apologize for what he did and begin a process of atonement.28 But then he told Esquire two months later that the congressional charges against him were about politics and power, and "not about morality or truth or the law."29 He said the accusers should apologize to the country. Will the real Bill Clinton please stand up?

(And from page 3 paragraph 7:)

These developments, and others, reflect the views of a man who reportedly told Mexican novelist Carlos Fuentes in August 1995: "My only enemy is right-wing religious fundamentalism."49

Endnotes:

25: "Clinton Benefits from Largest Gender Gap in History; According to Exit Polls, The President Won Overwhelming Approval From Women This Time," Minneapolis Star Tribune, 6 November 1996, p. 8A.
26: Andrew Ferguson, "Christianity, Clinton Style; The Confessor in Chief Wows an Audience of Evangelicals," The Weekly Standard, 11 September 2000, p. 14.
27: Teresa Mask, "Willow Creek Ready to Receive the President; Officials Expect Traffic, Excitement From Clinton Interview," Chicago Daily-Herald, 10 August 2000, p. 10.
28: "Interview with President Bill Clinton at the Ministersí Leadership Conference," Federal News Service, 10 August 2000.
29: Esquire, op.cit.

49: "His Only Enemy," The Washington Times, 3 February 1999, p. A2.



"President Bill Clinton was recently voted the second most popular politician in Russia, edged out by former KGB agent and Russian president Vladimir Putin. But the American entry was tied for second place with Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov, who still pines for totalitarianism. (By sheer coincidence, Clinton also came in second in last year's "Most Evil Person of the Millennium" poll in the New York Post, narrowly bested by Adolf Hitler.)" Excerpt from Liberal Pimps For Clintonism (Ann Coulter)



A friend of Jim Bramlett recently observed that Bill Clinton turned 54 years old on August 19, 2000. The number 54 = (6+6+6) + (6+6+6) + (6+6+6). The Oslo accord was perhaps Bill's most notable accomplishment during his term as President of the US. That covenant was the very covenant of death referred to by the prophet Isaiah and the covenant referred to as strengthened in Daniel 9:27, This covenant was made precisely 666 days before his (6+6+6) + (6+6+6) + (6+6+6) birthday. October 23, 1998 + 666 days = August 19, 2000 And this from the man whose name (and whose wife's name) calculates to that significant number 666. These facts neither prove nor disprove anything of themselves, but they are worthy of note as contributing to the whole body of evidence that should be considered when the lawless one's identity is being sought.



News Articles from Friday April 6, Nisan 13 according to popular accounting of the calendar.


Excerpts from Bubba's Triumphant Return to Bombay (BusinessWeek Online)
"In the U.S., he may be a political pariah. But in India, former President Bill Clinton has returned to the subcontinent with all the excitement and flair of the Second Coming. Actually, it is his second coming -- the first was March, 2000, when he made the first Presidential visit to India since Jimmy Carter. He left a lasting impression then on Indians -- and they on him He left a lasting impression then on Indians -- and they on him (see BW Online, 3/24/00, "The President's Trip: A Triumph for Indian-Americans").

You'd never know Clinton was the ex-President: India has rolled out a red carpet for him, with lavish meals and private soirees hosted by the likes of the superwealthy Ambani family of petrochem giant Reliance Industries. Clinton is traveling courtesy of the 1 million-strong Indian-American community based in the U.S. Ever since his last visit here, Clinton has grown quite chummy with the prosperous Indo-Americans.

The American India Foundation -- which is sponsoring the visit -- has raised funds to rebuild Gujarat, the northern Indian state devastated by an earthquake in January. The group, funded by heavies such as McKinsey & Co. chief Rajat Gupta and Citicorp honcho Victor Menezes, both of whom are Indian, sent Clinton here with a check for $50 million, which he gave to the Gujarat's chief minister.

NEW CAREER. Nice work for a former President if you can get it: Handing out checks written by others and getting some friendly press coverage for yourself. Truth is, the trip looks to be a launching pad for Clinton in a new career as informal U.S. ambassador-at-large."


Something here smells a lot like Judas carrying the money bag. John 13:29: Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor.



In an exerpt from Clinton To Speak for British Charity, (an AP International article no longer available online) Clinton is seen buttering up the Jews.


"Former President Clinton will speak at three gala events in Britain later this year to raise money for a Jewish charity, organizers said Saturday.

Stanley Lovatt, vice president of the Jewish National Fund said the events will be held in Glasgow, Manchester and London on December 10, 11, and 12 respectively.

"He will be speaking for an hour followed by a half-hour question-and-answer session," said Lovatt, a Glasgow-based businessman who clinched the deal to bring the former president to Britain.

"I don't know what Mr. Clinton is going to talk about -- that will be up to him."

The former president's visit marks the centenary year of the JNF, which was established in Switzerland in 1901 to raise funds for the Jewish community. Money raised from Clinton's visit will be used to fund a community project in Israel.

Lovatt said Clinton will receive an ''honorarium'' payment for the tour, but the amount was confidential.

Clinton is due to visit Belfast next month to receive an honorary degree for his services to peace in Northern Ireland. He made three trips to Northern Ireland in his efforts to push the peace process forward, the first serving U.S. president to visit the province."




Saturday April 7 (also possibly Nisan 13, according to new moon accounting of the calendar)


Clinton Visits Mother Teresa Tomb This AP International article describes what may be a portion of the day Clinton is revealed as the lawless one. I'm still trying to find more news of what happened there that day. As I mentioned at the top of the page, I've heard Clinton participated in a Hindu ceremony where he was dedicated to the Hindu gods.

by FARID HOSSAIN - Associated Press Writer

CALCUTTA, India (AP) -- Former President Clinton sang a hymn at the tomb of Mother Teresa on Saturday, then cuddled babies and danced with children at the orphanage she founded.

Towering over Sister Nirmala, who succeeded Mother Teresa as head of the Missionaries of Charity after her death in 1997, Clinton waved at a crowd of 1,000 people who chanted his name.

Clinton, surrounded by 300 children, said he didn't mind the 90-degree temperature in the eastern Indian city of Calcultta: ''It's like Florida.''

Sister Nirmala said Clinton placed a bouquet of white gladiolas at the tomb and joined several nuns in singing the hymn, ''Make me a channel of your peace.''

''Mr. Clinton is a very good man with a very good heart,'' she was quoted as saying by The Press Trust of India.

Roads and shops were closed and lime was sprinkled around to cut down on the stench of garbage when Clinton arrived at Mother House. Shouts of ''Clinton, Clinton'' broke out from the crowd held back by police on the other side of the wide avenue.

''I promised my wife I would come here,'' Clinton told reporters outside the orphanage. His wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, attended Mother Teresa's funeral.

Clinton is traveling with a delegation of 40 Americans of Indian descent who have raised millions of dollars to rebuild Gujarat state in western India.

His seven-day visit to Gujarat state and the cities of Bombay, New Delhi, Jaipur and Calcutta is sponsored by the American India Foundation, which aims to raise $20 million to rebuild 40 villages. An estimated 30,000 people were killed and 1 million left homeless in Gujarat by the magnitude-7.7 temblor.

Clinton was to leave the country on Tuesday.




Sunday April 8 (also, possibly Nisan 13, according to new moon sighting accounting of the calendar)

AP Top News
Clinton Inaugurates India School

Excerpt from the above article: "Former President Clinton, on a weeklong trip to India, dedicated a girl's polytechnic school in his wife's name Sunday at the end of a long, dusty road where screaming villagers lined up by the thousands to see him."



Monday April 9:

AP News AP News

Clinton Once Again Casts Spell Over Indian Village

NAILA, India (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Bill Clinton once again captivated people of a dusty northern Indian village where he made a brief stopover during his last visit to India.

Ecstatic villagers in Naila in the desert state of Rajasthan gave Clinton a traditional Indian welcome, showering him with flower petals and garlanding him.

''I'm very happy to be with you again. I kept my promise (to return),'' a beaming Clinton, on a seven-day swing through India, told the cheering crowd. ``You really are wonderful people. I talk about you wherever I go,'' he added to the crowd late on Sunday.

Clinton was due to visit the Rajasthan capital of Jaipur, 18 km (12 miles) from Naila, on Monday before heading for New Delhi, the last leg of his visit to discuss relief efforts for earthquake-hit Gujarat.

In March last year when he was still U.S. head of state, Clinton broke away from high-level discussions with Indian political leaders to visit the same village where he got a rapturous welcome. During his 20-minute stopover this time, Clinton cast off tight security to mingle with the locals.

Women danced for him and tied a ''rakhi'' on his wrist, a thread band traditionally given by a sister to a brother. ''Our brother has come back,'' they chanted.

One villager smeared red powder on Clinton's forehead to greet him and the villagers said a prayer for his well being. Last year Clinton sat with the women of Naila and surrounding villages to talk about improving the economic and social conditions of rural women.

This time, when the women complained about slow progress, Clinton replied: ''All I can offer you is hope.''

Clinton's trip to India was organized by the American India Foundation, a group of Americans of Indian origin set up in February to help victims of the quake in January that killed 30,000 people and left millions homeless.




Saturday April 14 (Probably Nisan 19 or 20)


This article shows a dark mirroring of what the true Messiah was doing at the time. It's all about the relationship between the Groom and His Bride.

Excerpts from the Drudge Report article:TOGETHER AGAIN: CLINTONS FIND NEW LOVE IN TROPICAL PARADISE, with commentary interspersed.

"A family source on Saturday described the secret Easter getaway as a 'second honeymoon' for the couple! 'They've fallen madly in love with each all other again!' declared the well-placed source. In a stunning development, the source added: 'I would not be surprised if they renew their vows during the trip."

A secret Easter getaway! WOW! That is a great description of the Bride Theft, I must say! Madly in love? Have you been reading the Song of Songs? How's your passion for the Lord? A match for His passion for the Bride? Vows? Are you ready for the nuptials?

The Clintons are staying at a luxury villa in the resort of Punta Cana. Does Cana ring any bells? (like wedding bells?)
On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus' mother was there, 2 and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine was gone, Jesus' mother said to him, 'They have no more wine.' 4 'Dear woman, why do you involve me?' Jesus replied. 'My time has not yet come.' 5 His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever he tells you.' 6 Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons. 7 Jesus said to the servants, 'Fill the jars with water'; so they filled them to the brim. 8 Then he told them, 'Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.' They did so, 9 and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside 10 and said, 'Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.' 11 This, the first of his miraculous signs, Jesus performed at Cana in Galilee. He thus revealed his glory, and his disciples put their faith in him.  John 2:1-11
'The third day' is a phrase that always signals an underlying resurrection theme. The capacity of the jars can be calculated (Stephen Jones - God's Kingdom Ministries) by two different methods to total 153 units, the number of fish caught in the net in John 21. This is symbolic of the righteous remnant - resurrected. A wedding on the third day? Water (flesh life) turned into wine (spirit life) of the best quality? Yes! He thus revealed his glory! And, his disciples put their faith in him. Amen! Glory Hallelujah! You know, I have always wondered why Jesus said what he did here: "Dear woman, why do you involve me?' Jesus replied. 'My time has not yet come." I think I now have some insight. He alluded to the time when he would be involved with the wedding when his time comes - and he would be the Bridegroom. The passage continues, revealing what I believe to be when that would be. Passover time - 2 thousand year days off into the future.
After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days. 13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.  John 2:12-13 (KJV)
The name Capernaum means 'village of comfort.' The comforter abides where Jesus went with his extended family.
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  John 14:16
Then, the Passover is fulfilled when Jesus calls the Bride up to join him in the New Jerusalem! So it would seem, we are almost there!

The article goes on to further describe their relationship as lovers in language reminiscent of Song of Songs.

"Photographs taken of the duo Saturday evening in the Dominican Republic reveal a glowing Hillary Clinton. "She's having one of the best times of her life," said the family source. ''The past few years have been very difficult. But she's getting her groove back, and her Bill!"

The Bride is seen glowing. Shekhina glory is the covering of the Bride. And hasn't the Bride had some very difficult past few years? Well?

The article closes with reference to their troubles outside the context of the lovers' relationship during their secret Easter getaway. How's your life been going? Are you experiencing pressures and troubles in matters that reflect upon you that are simply out of your hands? Isn't the Bride's own vineyard neglected? (Song of Songs 1:6)

Why is it that they are in the Dominican Republic? The word Domingo means Sunday. The Sunday worship characterizes the body of Christ out from whom the seventh day Sabbath Bride has come. A definition of 'republic' is: "A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president." Isn't the church of the Body a republic? If they were truly under The Monarch, wouldn't they be the Bride and not the Body out from whom they came? But they are willingly under the headship of a president, a presiding pastor, reverend, priest, or somesuch titled person. A republic is also: "A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them." Have you ever seen the way organized churches are run? [definitions from American Heritage Dictionary]

Am I dreaming? Pinch me.



Since the close of the April Pesach Feast watch window, Clinton has moved on from his ''secret Easter getaway'' to continue his ambassador-at-large activity, being given another exuberant welcome.

Clinton Attends S. Africa Conference (April 24)

by RAVI NESSMAN
Associated Press Writer

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) -- Former President Clinton urged South Africans Tuesday to work to strengthen their civic organizations to help rebuild the country from the devastation of apartheid.

''No country needs a vibrant, strong civil society more than South Africa, and few countries have the resources to build one that you have,'' Clinton said.

Clinton joined former President Nelson Mandela in addressing more than 800 delegates at the start of a two-day conference kicking off the Civil Society Initiative, an effort to encourage South Africans to strengthen their churches, community groups and labor unions.

In supporting the initiative, Clinton said a strong civil society was needed to work with government on ''the next steps of liberation. The liberation of potential, intellect, initiative and spirit.''

Clinton brought with him members of AmeriCorps, the United States' national service program, as an example to South Africa of how to harness the energy of young people to help fight the social and economic ills of a country.

Many of the most talented South Africans who had been oppressed by apartheid have devoted their energies to business and government since the end of the regime in 1994, leaving little enthusiasm for civic groups, Clinton said.

''It is obvious that having a unified vision embodied in a viable civil society is critical to achieving what you want for the children of South Africa, what I want for the children of America and all of the world,'' he said.

Clinton, who became the first sitting U.S. president to visit South Africa in 1998, is extremely popular here and was greeted with a standing ovation when he was introduced. After his speech, he was mobbed for at least 10 minutes by fans trying to shake his hand.

The initiative aims to work alongside government to heal the wounds that continue to plague South Africa, including poverty, poor education and the deep pessimism about the future of the country. The conference will also mark the start of Project Hope, a campaign to create positive role models across the country by giving national awards to local South African heroes.





Obviously, Clinton has had been given powerful influence over the years. The popularity he enjoys now may not be seen by most to be any different from what he ever had, but Bill's popularity and influence has grown to an astonishing level - and continues to grow. Has Clinton begun to come into his own? Has he now become the lawless one, the Beast? I can't help but think back to how subtle and yet how important the Wye River fulfillment of Daniel 9:27 was back in 1998. Could this event which is the revelation of the lawless one be as subtle and difficult to discern? Perhaps. Who is to say? If we didn't have the abundant and forceful evidence that these were the very times and seasons appointed for these critical events, who among us would seriously consider their potential for prophetic fulfillment? Are these not the times? Are these not the prophesied events? Oh, what a high level of discernment is required! Who is qualified to bear testimony that these events are what we, who have our eyes upon the soon returning Bridegroom, want them to be? Maybe the further evidence of the revelation of the lawless one is forthcoming. Oh, how hopeful I am!

I continue to watch, hoping to see some fruit patterned after Haman, Herod and Judas. I don't know exactly what to expect, as far as specifics go. I have presented the basis for my expectations for several years now so those of you who are watchers with me can read everything online, seek the Lord's insight, and form your own opinions. I feel like asking a question that is kind of a twist on what John the Baptist had asked about Jesus, "Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?" (Matthew 11, Luke 7) Is Bill the other one who was to come?

I am thoroughly and absolutely convinced that the Lord has sovereignly orchestrated this season's circumstances because of my personal life situation (patterned after 10 years ago) and what I see going on in the lives of others close to me. I believe the Bride people have been brought to a high alert status, with a robe about as white as it's going to get without some further imputus. Many are expecting war to break out. Israel and secondarily the US seem to be the ones to watch, who stand out from among most other nations of the world as those most hated. Will war break out? I cannot say for sure. I can say that the Lord has provided evidence that even the kingdom of the lawless one is no more knowledgeable of the timing than we are, and is similarly depending upon the promised signs to be brought forth openly.

As I understand the sequence of events that will bring the Bride to perfect readiness, the lawless one must first be revealed and the intended work of betrayal accomplished. After the pattern of Judas at Gesthemane, he will betray Christ with a kiss, a show of affection that is a sign to reveal his identity to those watching. This betrayal, or the revelation of the identity of the genuine Messiah will cause the 144k of Israel to acknowledge Him, proclaiming "Baruch haba b'shem Adonai." According to the first fulfillment of Romans 11:15 (For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?) and according to the pattern of John's (the 144k) expression to Peter (the Bride) of his recognition of Y'shua in John 21, this is the sound that will immediately precede the Bridegroom's coming to receive His Bride unto Himself. Oh, what a glorious day that will be!!!